Last Updated on July 16, 2025 by Mags Nixon
The Refuge Les Grands variant (variant for stage 9 of the Tour du Mont Blanc also known as variant 5 via Les Grands in the Kingsley Jones guidebook & map) is the least known variant on the TMB.
The traditional route of stage 9 climbs steadily though the Vallon Nant Noir hugging the forest for the majority of the time with no significant views until the Col de Balme. It’s certainly an easier stage for those who are utterly exhausted and a better route in bad weather with shelter under the trees.
However, for those of you who can sum up the energy, the Refuge Les Grands variant route will not disappoint. A historic trail heralding incredible views of the Trient glacier this little trodden trail takes you high above the tree line to Refuge Les Grands and then follows a glorious high traverse on a good path around the lower flanks of Les Grands Otanes (2679m) connecting to the traditional TMB trail at the Col de Balme.
This variant takes between 3.5-4 hours before marrying up to the main trail at Refuge du Col de Balme.

Whilst you’ll share the first 45 minutes along the flat ‘Bisse du Trient’ to buvette Chalet des Glaciers with dog walkers and promenading day trippers, the Bisse is a path of historical importance and is very interesting.
The Bisse du Trient starts at the Col de la Forclaz and runs along a flat balcony trail to buvette, Chalet du Glacier (50 mins) but can also be picked up from Trient or Le Peuty (in this case you will have probably walked the initial section of the Bisse on your descent from the Col the previous day).


The ‘bisse’, a narrow deep channel cut along the path, was used in the 19th century before the invention of fridges to transport ice cut from the glacier down the valley. The ice was then transported by train from Martigny to restaurants nationwide. It’s interesting to see the wooden framework along the trail and to read the information boards (French only).

At the end of the trail is a popular buvette (mountain cafe) – Chalet du Glacier, a small affair commanding a fantastic view of the Trient glacier (however eye wateringly expensive being in Switzerland!). We’d recommend a water break to appreciate the view and pressing on. Note that you cannot fill your water bottle at the cafe as the water is non-potable but you can refill filter bottles or buy bottled water.




Cross the wooden bridge to the right across the glacial torrent and turn left to start the steep 90 minute climb to Refuge Les Grands. You’ll need to tap into hidden energy reserves here but you’ll be rewarded just before the refuge by a glimpse of Glacier des Grands as well as one of the most thrilling aspects of the trail – a path cut deep into the cliffside reminiscent of high altitude trails in China or Tibet. The exposure is high but a bolted metal hand rail will help those of a nervous disposition to cover this short section safely in under a minute before arriving at a huge cross.




Almost immediately you’ll come upon Refuge les Grands. This tiny refuge is one of the little known gems on the TMB trail. With exceptional views of the Trient glacier the location of this refuge guarantees solitude and quiet reflection. With only 15 mattresses squished up beside each other inside the attic and another couple of spaces in the bergerie to bivvy, you’ll share this space with the few adventurous. The outdoor loo (and shower) and the fact you can’t get a hot evening meal here means that majority of TMB trekkers dismiss this route leaving it gloriously uncrowded. Dinner is not provided merely a bed, so it’s necessary to bring your own food and cook for the night. Dinner need not be a weighty affair though.







For the few that get to Les Grands though it’s just a pleasant stop for a refreshment to gaze at the incredible Trient glacier before pressing on to the Col de Balme. After leaving Refuge les Grands the trail traverses high with some high exposure points and rocky technical sections. Keep your eyes on your feet to avoid injury and stop frequently to drink in the full glory of the now fully visible Trient glacier behind you. Around an hour later the path rounds high above on the Vallon Noir flank with Refuge le Balme a tiny black square silhouetted on the sky line. The path becomes easy now with clear views of Col du Balme ahead and the lower traditional path climbing up from below.

Refuge du Col de Balme is worth a stay if it works with your itinerary. Exposed to the elements, the refuge is often subject to strong winds but it’s a great place to stay with hearty food. It can be tricky to book early though if you are planning your TMB trek the September or October before (as is now often unfortunately the case due to the popularity of the TMB) as Henri, the owner, tends to not open his online reservation system until around April each year.


From Refuge du Col de Balme there’s an easy short cut down to Tré-le-Champ if you’re feeling weary by simply taking the chairlift and gondola (June 8th – September 8th 2024 – see timetable here) down the mountain to the small village of Le Tour. The chairlift is visible from the refuge – it’s under a ten minute walk. You can’t pay for your ticket at the top so you simply get on the chairlift and pay at the bottom. From there you can walk over to the cable car and descend to Le Tour.
You can also simply just walk down under the ski lifts on the stony piste track which is easy enough (and free!)
From Le Tour either catch the bus for one stop to Montroc train station, or its a ten minute walk (walk through the car park down to the main road and follow the road straight down to Montroc.



At Montroc walk through the train car park to the far end to find a pedestrian bridge crossing the tracks. Pick up the short trail ascending to Tré-le-Champ (15 minutes). Those not lucky enough to have booked Refuge le Boerne early enough (it books out very quickly as is the only accommodation option directly on the trail at this point) can walk ten minutes from Montroc station to stay at Gite Les Moulins, or head to hotel accommodation options in Argentiere, Chamonix or Vallorcine and return to the trail head the following morning. This is easy enough to do by train.
Those keen to follow the traditional route to Tré-le-Champ won’t be disappointed. The Aiguillette des Posettes is arguably one of the finest views of the Chamonix valley. If the weather’s playing ball, you’ll have clear views of the sparkling dome of Mont Blanc as you hike along the long ridge and down the numerous wooden steps cut into the mountain until you finally disappear below the tree line on the long descent to Tré-le-Champ.

15 Comments
carley
November 23, 2024 at 5:45 pmHow do you book this Refuge? I can’t seem to find it.
Mags Nixon
January 20, 2025 at 6:22 pmHello no they don’t have their own website. You need to email Nicolas Pilet on nic@azymuthe.ch Remember your have to take your own food but its a fabulous little refuge. best wishes. Mags
Marie
March 9, 2025 at 3:24 amDo you need a sleeping bag for refuge les grands or is the sleep liner sufficient ? Do they provide mattress and quilt ? Thanks.
Mags Nixon
March 9, 2025 at 3:09 pmHi Marie yes the accommodation at Refuge les Grands is very basic – everyone is in the attic room together sleeping on mattresses on the floor. They provide pillow and quilt but you will need to bring a sleeping bag liner. You can email Nicolas on nic@azymuthe.ch for any questions about your booking at Refuge les Grands. I love that route – it’s one of the best! Don’t forget to take an expedition pack to eat for dinner as this refuge doesn’t cater for you. Have a great trek!
Emily
June 2, 2025 at 11:04 pmHello Mags, How is the trail from Col de Balme to Les Grands and then Les Grands down to Chalet du Glacier going clockwise? Also, do you expect the Fenetre d’Arpette variant to have much snow still in mid-July this year? Many thanks!
Mags Nixon
June 5, 2025 at 1:09 pmHi Emily I haven’t yet done this variant as it’s a bit early. There is still snow on the high traverse between Refuge Col de Balme and Refuge Les Grands. This should be fine mid July. There is not as much snow as last year so I am expecting the Fenetre d’Arpette to hopefully be passable also by mid July. Best. Mags
ricardo garcia
February 3, 2026 at 4:58 pmHello Mags, I am leaving Relais DÁrpette heading to Les Ecuries de Charamillon and trying to book Les Grands which seems to be midway. Can you give me any tips on the best route ?
tourdumontblanchike
February 17, 2026 at 8:35 amHi Ricardo, if the weather is good you can cross the Fenetre d’Arpette (packed lunch + all water required). At Chalet des Glaciers – the small snack bar (buvette) on the other side, cross the bridge on the left and ascend up to Les Grands. It’s around 1hr 40 up to Les Grands. In bad weather you’ll need to take the bovine traditional route from Champex around to the Col de la Forclaz – you’ll the walk the Bisse du Trient route (50 mins) to Chalet des Glaciers then ascend to Les Grands. Refuge Les Grands will open for reservations on March 1st 2026 – remember it’s not a typical TMB refuge in that it doesn’t provide food so you’ll have to take an expedition pack or pasta etc. It’s a fantastic, very authentic experience.
Anna
April 1, 2026 at 12:16 amHi, we are coming counter clockwise from Champex Lac and thinking of taking the Fenetre d’Arpette variant to stay the night at the Les Grands refuge. Would you recommend this in early July? Is that too easy of a day and should we try to go all the way to refuge col de balme or up to col forclaz after stopping at les grands?
tourdumontblanchike
April 19, 2026 at 2:24 pmHi Anna sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Fenetre d’Arpette is never easy and no I would not consider going even further to Col de Balme – thats way too far. It depends what date in July. Early July like the 1-10th I wouldn’t consider the Fenetre as too much snow, however this can vary according to the melt rate this spring. The temperature is already very hot. It takes around another 1.5 hours to get up to Refuge Les Grands when you hit the buvette (mountain cafe) Chalet des Glaciers which is where you would turn left over the bridge to go up to the Refuge. it would take almost another 2 hours further to get to Col de Balme. If I were you I would definitely book Les Grands but be prepared that you might have to hike the Bovine traditional route if there is still snow on the Fenetre. You will be able to check at the High Mountain Office in Chamonix and also worth emailing or calling Refuge Relais d’Arpette to check on conditions. Thanks. Mags
Andrea
June 21, 2026 at 8:52 pmHello,
I’ll be doing the TMB during the first week of August. I’ll be staying at Relais d’Arpette, and the following day I’ll take the Fenêtre d’Arpette variant and spend the night at Chalet Les Grands (I’ve already booked it).
My first question is: roughly how long does this stage take in good weather conditions? I understand that I need to bring my own food, but regarding bedding, are pillows and blankets provided, so that I only need to bring a sleeping bag liner?
The next day I’m planning to leave Chalet Les Grands and hike all the way to Refuge de la Flégère. Do you think that’s a realistic and feasible stage?
tourdumontblanchike
June 24, 2026 at 4:59 amHi Andrea yes the refuge has pillows and duvets – you will need to bring your own sleeping bag liner. You can find full information here on this 2026 PDF Info for Guests for Les Grands. It’s a long day even in good weather. Set off very early from Relais – it takes around 4 hours to climb to the top of the col.Then around 3 hours to descend to the buvette Chalet des Glaciers which is at the bottom on the other side of the col. Then it will be another 1.5 hour climb to Les Grands. So in total you can expect an 8.5 hour day. Yes the following day would be long but doable. It’s between 1.5- 2 hours around to Refuge Col du Balme then 4 hours along the posettes ridge to tre-Le-Champ then 3.5 hours via the ladders to Flegere. If you want to seriously cut the day then take the Autanes chairlift + Charamillon gondola down to Le Tour from the top of the col (its 10 min walk from Refuge Col de Balme and from the refuge you can see the chairlift – note pay at the bottom of the chairlift) this will cut out all of the traditional posettes ridge so you will save around 3 hours. At the bottom of the gondola (Le Tour village) either pick up the no 2 bus for one stop at Montroc or just walk down the road 10 mins to Montroc train station. From there walk through the train station car park to pick up the trail up to Tre-Le-Champ (10 mins) where you can pick up the traditional trail again up to the ladders. Hope that helps. Enjoy the trail. Mags
Jodi
July 7, 2026 at 9:49 pmWe’re considering Trient to Col de Balme via the Les Grands route. We were initially thinking of doing the Fenêtre d’Arpette variant to Trient, but decided it’s probably better to stick to Alp Bovine. Is the Les Grands variant less taxing and/or less sketchy than Fenêtre d’Arpette?
tourdumontblanchike
July 8, 2026 at 10:38 amHi Jodi, good to hear from you. Yes the Les Grands variant is WAY less taxing and sketchy than the Fenetre d’Arpette – it is all on a good trail (no boulder fields or loose scree!). There is of course a tough up section but thats the same on any TMB leg. I love it – one of my favourite parts of the TMB! Enjoy!
Jodi
July 9, 2026 at 5:02 amThank you so much for the info and for this useful guide/website. It’s been hard to find info on this particular variant so I really appreciate your response!